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the extension he is granting under obama care, just issuing, or is this within his discretion? because there is case law that these administrative-type things, postponement of tax collection, which he could say this is, that that is all okay to do administratively with the stroke of a pen? >> well, it is a matter of degree. there is no question there is a certain amount of discretion, the constitution requires that the president take care to faithfully execute the laws, that doesn't mean completely execute, but faithfully execute means to follow the congressional intent, and when the congressional intent is not re flected in how he expects the law to work out he doesn't have the authority to change it. he needs to come back to congress, why? because there is a great divide in congress over the obama care and he needs to negotiate. that is what the legislative branch is for, though, to make those hard negotiations and the lawmakers have the authority to pass the laws. >> there is a reason we have divided government. what is the difference between what president obama is doing no
the extension he is granting under obama care, just issuing, or is this within his discretion? because there is case law that these administrative-type things, postponement of tax collection, which he could say this is, that that is all okay to do administratively with the stroke of a pen? >> well, it is a matter of degree. there is no question there is a certain amount of discretion, the constitution requires that the president take care to faithfully execute the laws, that doesn't mean...
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and this this 17-year-old was diagnosed with a rare disease and has under gone 86 surgeries. because of obama care her family's health plan is about to be cancelled. are you listening, unger? her mother joins me in studio. they will give you the obama care horror story of the week and ah, so you can see like right here i can just... you know, check my policy here, add a car, ah speak to customer service, check on a claim...you know, all with the ah, tap of my geico app. oh, that's so cool. well, i would disagree with you but, ah, that would make me a liar. no dude, you're on the jumbotron! whoa. ah...yeah, pretty much walked into that one. geico anywhere anytime. just a tap away on the geico app. [ alarm sound for malfunctioning printer ] [ male announcer ] you've reached the age where you've learned a thing or two. [ metal clanks ] ♪ this is the age of knowing what you're made of. so why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? [ gears whirring ] talk to your doctor about viagra. 20 million men already have. ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not
and this this 17-year-old was diagnosed with a rare disease and has under gone 86 surgeries. because of obama care her family's health plan is about to be cancelled. are you listening, unger? her mother joins me in studio. they will give you the obama care horror story of the week and ah, so you can see like right here i can just... you know, check my policy here, add a car, ah speak to customer service, check on a claim...you know, all with the ah, tap of my geico app. oh, that's so cool....
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did you hear about the guy whose baby was denied coverage under obama care? >> those family plan quotes included myself, my wife, our 7, 5, and 3-year-old, and 18 month-old was left off. the response was no, they don't allow family plans under the age of 8. >> this guy tried to sign his family up for insurance on the new york state exchange and they refused to enroll his 18 month-old baby? obama care is anti-toddler? the story, as you might imagine, got a lot of pickup in the right wing media. the post surfaced again and again all over conservative press and of course landed distraught father on fox news. even the house speaker john boehner climbed on board the obama hates toddlers bandwagon, after saying he learned obama care wouldn't cover his baby. now, hearing this story you may ask yourself the question any journalist writing the story or producer doing a segment about it, or any person with just basic common sense would be asking, could it possibly be the case that obama was denying coverage to a toddler? well, the answer, that very good question is no,
did you hear about the guy whose baby was denied coverage under obama care? >> those family plan quotes included myself, my wife, our 7, 5, and 3-year-old, and 18 month-old was left off. the response was no, they don't allow family plans under the age of 8. >> this guy tried to sign his family up for insurance on the new york state exchange and they refused to enroll his 18 month-old baby? obama care is anti-toddler? the story, as you might imagine, got a lot of pickup in the right...
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and this is 17-year-old was diagnosed with a rare disease and has under gone 86 surgeries. because of obama care her family's health plan is about to be cancelled. are you listening, unger? her mother joins me in studio. they will give you the obama care horror story of the week hi, i'm terry and i have diabetic nerve pain. it's hard to describe, because you have numbness, but yet you have the pain like thousands of needles sticking in your foot. it was progressively getting worse, and at that point i knew i had to do something. once i started taking the lyrica the pain started subsiding. [ male announcer ] it's known that diabetes damages nerves. lyrica is fda approved to treat diabetic nerve pain. lyrica is not for everyone. it may cause serious allergic reactions or suicidal thoughts or actions. tell your doctor right away if you have these, new or worsening depression, or unusual changes in mood or behavior. or swelling, trouble breathing, rash, hives, blisters, changes in eyesight including blurry vision, muscle pain with fever, tired feeling, or skin sores from diabet
and this is 17-year-old was diagnosed with a rare disease and has under gone 86 surgeries. because of obama care her family's health plan is about to be cancelled. are you listening, unger? her mother joins me in studio. they will give you the obama care horror story of the week hi, i'm terry and i have diabetic nerve pain. it's hard to describe, because you have numbness, but yet you have the pain like thousands of needles sticking in your foot. it was progressively getting worse, and at that...
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so we'll live in an obama play money world a little more. look, we had a good plan under mr. nixon. what would nixon do about this, what would he do about that? we're going to take a little percentage. we're not going to screw up their insurance policies of those who do have -- the small percentage who can't afford it, we'll give them checks and not have a huge government bureaucracy to handle it. go to your iurance agent, buy the policy. bang, that's it. write you a check. it's done. >> ben stein, thanks so much for being with us tonight. >> that's it? >> that's it, ben. >> that's it? >> unls you're going to write the check, that's it. it's good to see you. >> all right. nice to see you. a registered nurse now joins us, who happened to be married to a doctor and who is now in her second term as a congresswoman. all right, congresswoman, can obama care be fixed? >> no, it can't. it's fundamentally flawed. >> why? >> we've heard the promises. the promises were broken. it was never created on a fundamentally structured format. depending on one group paying for another group and trying
so we'll live in an obama play money world a little more. look, we had a good plan under mr. nixon. what would nixon do about this, what would he do about that? we're going to take a little percentage. we're not going to screw up their insurance policies of those who do have -- the small percentage who can't afford it, we'll give them checks and not have a huge government bureaucracy to handle it. go to your iurance agent, buy the policy. bang, that's it. write you a check. it's done. >>...
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under obama care, the premiums are even higher. i don't see any way obama care can work. >> one of the architects of obama care was pressed on another promise the president made that turned out to be true. >> the president said you had unlimited choice of any doctor across the united states. >> no. he asked a question, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. did he not say that? >> he didn't say unlimited choice. >> yes or no. did he say if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor? >> yes. if you want to pay more for an insurance company that covers your doctor, you can do that. >> also today insurance brokers are complaining they are having trouble helping their clients because of problem with information at the back end of troubled obama care enrollment process. jamie. >> steve, thanks for your report, live in washington. good to see you, steve purchase good to see you. >> there are concerns about privacy of folks. "los angeles times" reporting the exchange gave out personal information of tens of thousands of pe
under obama care, the premiums are even higher. i don't see any way obama care can work. >> one of the architects of obama care was pressed on another promise the president made that turned out to be true. >> the president said you had unlimited choice of any doctor across the united states. >> no. he asked a question, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. did he not say that? >> he didn't say unlimited choice. >> yes or no. did he say if you like your...
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under obama care, the premiums are even higher. yonlt see any way obama care can work. >> let me turn to another subject. loans. last march, you took to the senate floor for 13 hours to filibuster a nomination because of your opposition to the military use of drones to attack u.s. citizens. this week as i'm sure you know, the head, we're looking at a picture of the drone right there, of amazon, announced they have plans, maybe five years down the road, that loans would come, pick up a package. a book, a sweater and deliver it to your front door where you could take it. instead of a delivery truck. when you see that, and i'm sure you have seen those videos, does that excite you or do you think that's a problem and i've got to find a way to block? >> well, you know, i'm not against technology, so i'm not one of those people who says airplanes is really a bad thing. there will be air traffic control issues. my problem is more with surveillance for privacy reasons, so i'm worried about the government looking into our backyard. also wor
under obama care, the premiums are even higher. yonlt see any way obama care can work. >> let me turn to another subject. loans. last march, you took to the senate floor for 13 hours to filibuster a nomination because of your opposition to the military use of drones to attack u.s. citizens. this week as i'm sure you know, the head, we're looking at a picture of the drone right there, of amazon, announced they have plans, maybe five years down the road, that loans would come, pick up a...
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my co-pays and tripled under obama care. you can tell i am thrilled to tell. >> you can hear the sarcam from john boehner. and broader point there, is that members of congress and congressional staffers giving up more genous plans in favor of the exchanges and senator harry reid exempted some, not all but the senate staffers from going into the exchange. that led to charges of hypocrisy is supposed to be a booster of the law. >> we are on that. not like mcconnell or boehner or pelosi. how will this be to selling young americans to buying into it? >> that is a big issue. mechanical issues to get the website working. but they have to get young healthy people to seen up. you force the older sicker people in. and you hear john boehner as a older gentlemen he has to pay more from the premiums, you need the younger healthier people to make it work. >> the math doesn't work without it either. >> new reports that some republican law makers are shifting obama care from repealing to repairing. it other republicans don't like that idea
my co-pays and tripled under obama care. you can tell i am thrilled to tell. >> you can hear the sarcam from john boehner. and broader point there, is that members of congress and congressional staffers giving up more genous plans in favor of the exchanges and senator harry reid exempted some, not all but the senate staffers from going into the exchange. that led to charges of hypocrisy is supposed to be a booster of the law. >> we are on that. not like mcconnell or boehner or...
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and this this 17-year-old was diagnosed with a rare disease and has under gone 86 surgeries. because of obama care her family's health plan is about to be cancelled. are you listening, unger? her mother joins me in studio. they will give you the obama care horror story of the week straight ahead. new fast acting advil. with an ultra-thin coating and fast absorbing advil ion core™ technology, it stops pain before it gets worse. nothing works faster. new fast acting advil. look for it in the white box. before using her new bank of america credit card, which rewards her for responsibly managing her card balance. before receiving $25 toward her balance each quarter for making more than ht on time each month. tracey got the bankamericard better balance rewards credit card, which fits nicely with everything else in life she has to balance. that's the benefit of responsibility. apply online or visit a bank of america near you. >>> welcome back to "hannity." although the administration had more than three and a half years to develop the health care program and get a website up and
and this this 17-year-old was diagnosed with a rare disease and has under gone 86 surgeries. because of obama care her family's health plan is about to be cancelled. are you listening, unger? her mother joins me in studio. they will give you the obama care horror story of the week straight ahead. new fast acting advil. with an ultra-thin coating and fast absorbing advil ion core™ technology, it stops pain before it gets worse. nothing works faster. new fast acting advil. look for it in the...
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did the obama white house quietly pass a rule giving unions a huge tax break under obama care? that investigation is next. later, a bus full of kids so out of control the driver had to call the cops. wait until you hear who wound up in trouble. >> [ bleep ] focus on what you're doing. what if you hit somebody? you think it's [ bleep ] funny, look at me like a man. mine was earned orbiting the moon in 1971. afghanistan in 2009. on the u.s.s. saratoga in 1982. [ male announcer ] once it's earned, usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation because it offers a superior level of protection and because usaa's commitment to serve current and former military members and their families is without equal. begin your legacy. get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve. a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay
did the obama white house quietly pass a rule giving unions a huge tax break under obama care? that investigation is next. later, a bus full of kids so out of control the driver had to call the cops. wait until you hear who wound up in trouble. >> [ bleep ] focus on what you're doing. what if you hit somebody? you think it's [ bleep ] funny, look at me like a man. mine was earned orbiting the moon in 1971. afghanistan in 2009. on the u.s.s. saratoga in 1982. [ male announcer ] once it's...
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under intense pressure, because obamacare is so controversial. the president of the united states is on his way to south africa to pay tribute to the late nelson mandela. he will be back wednesday. 34 hours round trip. after the president comes back from south africa, just a few days before he is off on christmas vacation to hawaii. or for you folks in san francisco his holiday vacation all this traveling might actually be good for mr. obama because the pressures are growing on his administration and he needs some diversion he got one last night as the kennedy senator program honored billy joel, opera singer, herbie hancock, carlos santana and shirley mcclain. when you first. first question people ask you what -- are you on? [ laughter ] >> when i wanted to know i called shirley mcclain. [ laughter ] i think i just became the first president to ever publicly mention area 51. >> it was a good night and your humble correspondent was on the scene that's because the kennedy center asked me to introduce herbie hancock and i was happy to do it. her buy
under intense pressure, because obamacare is so controversial. the president of the united states is on his way to south africa to pay tribute to the late nelson mandela. he will be back wednesday. 34 hours round trip. after the president comes back from south africa, just a few days before he is off on christmas vacation to hawaii. or for you folks in san francisco his holiday vacation all this traveling might actually be good for mr. obama because the pressures are growing on his...
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i had no idea, of course, of how badly it would become under obama care where all of those trends are really accentuated. even though medicine say wonderfully noble life, i felt outside the walls of the hospital there was history going on, az know you know as your involvement in politics. you want to be involved in that because so much, so much of other people's lives depend on getting it right. >> this book in many ways, i think, introduced people to who you are. they see you on special report. they know what you think. they know what you believe. they read your column. the personal side of charles krauthammer had never been revealed like this. was any of the reluctance to sort of open yourself up like that because of the background of psychiatry and you want to analyze others and didn't want to let others see you? did that have anything to do with it at all? >> um not sure that that's the reason. i think it's because when i write my column i try not to use the word i. this is in contrast to a certain president of the united states who can't leer his throat without saying the word i.
i had no idea, of course, of how badly it would become under obama care where all of those trends are really accentuated. even though medicine say wonderfully noble life, i felt outside the walls of the hospital there was history going on, az know you know as your involvement in politics. you want to be involved in that because so much, so much of other people's lives depend on getting it right. >> this book in many ways, i think, introduced people to who you are. they see you on special...
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obama care. some doctors are now saying they don't want to and cannot even afford to participate in these new health care exchanges. dr. mazer is an ear, nose, and throat doctor in california and one of the physicians who have expressed concern. what can we do about this throat? no, i'm kidding. i know you're not on the clock now. here's my real question to you. what specifically is the beef out in california about the reimbursement that leads you to say doctors don't want to join these exchanges? >> i wouldn't say it's a beef. what i would say is people have to make a decision now whether to participate in these exchange plans. when the exchanges offered participation earlier this month, they said, would you participate with no details, and a lot of doctors were very skeptical about what did that mean as far as the viability of their practice. we train to take care of patients. that's the bottom line here. but in order to take care of patients, you have to be able to keep your doors open, pay yo
obama care. some doctors are now saying they don't want to and cannot even afford to participate in these new health care exchanges. dr. mazer is an ear, nose, and throat doctor in california and one of the physicians who have expressed concern. what can we do about this throat? no, i'm kidding. i know you're not on the clock now. here's my real question to you. what specifically is the beef out in california about the reimbursement that leads you to say doctors don't want to join these...
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we haven't see things go well under him. 73 per of casualties in afghanistan happened up president obama. that's five years of horrific things happening in and. we are seeing iraq fall apart. afghanistan isn't in good shape and we have seen things change. katie pavllic, thank you. martha: a liftoff that insiders have calling a game changer. it is a private rocket now blasting off into space. i'll tell you who sent it there. bill: a man trapped under water found alive after three days. and now we can show you the incredible rescue. he is alive. bill: private aerospace company space-x is blasting off from a rented nasa pad in florida. mostly they have been running cargo missions. but today marks the first time a major satellite operation is in orbit. martha: this is a nasty winter storm slamming parts of the rockies and the northern plains. this is a scene in sheraton, which. winter has hit sheraton in a big way. whiteout conditions and the snow is falling. truckers are saying they are having a tough time getting around in this. >> as soon as you hit the tunnel, on the other side of the tu
we haven't see things go well under him. 73 per of casualties in afghanistan happened up president obama. that's five years of horrific things happening in and. we are seeing iraq fall apart. afghanistan isn't in good shape and we have seen things change. katie pavllic, thank you. martha: a liftoff that insiders have calling a game changer. it is a private rocket now blasting off into space. i'll tell you who sent it there. bill: a man trapped under water found alive after three days. and now...
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a couple of thing that they're worried about. 51% say they believe that under obama care the cost of health care will go up while 44% believe the quality of care will go down. now for the financial assumptions, the affordable care act to work, fully 4 0% of enrollees have to be below the age of 35. the poll clearly shows the numbers are not there. director of harvard's institute of politics conducted the poll. >> the president's in a tough spot, declining approval ratings, young people who don't support a policy initiative, who don't want to sign up. and that could lead to either further problems down the road for his signature initiatives. >> grayson believes that the white house only has a short period of time to convince these millennials that the plan is a good thing for them. or, neil, the whole risk is at risk of coming crashing down. >> thank you very much. >>> it's not just young people. president obama is also trying to convince a number of state insurance commissioners to get on board with the plan to extend the canceled plans, at least for a year. ben nelson, former democr
a couple of thing that they're worried about. 51% say they believe that under obama care the cost of health care will go up while 44% believe the quality of care will go down. now for the financial assumptions, the affordable care act to work, fully 4 0% of enrollees have to be below the age of 35. the poll clearly shows the numbers are not there. director of harvard's institute of politics conducted the poll. >> the president's in a tough spot, declining approval ratings, young people...
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under obama care, who knows? if you look at england -- >> who knows? >> here's something. >> it is not -- i wish it were, but it's not a single payer plan. don't say it is. it is still being run by the free market. >> what if the republicans came forward and said, i have an idea, mr. president, why don't you repeal the corporate welfare part of this bill, see what he would say about that. that's actually smart. then you put it on him to say, no, i'm not going to repair the corporate welfare part of this bill, because if you do, obama care as designed is going to fail. >> well, the problem is -- >> how about that? how about them apples, bob? >> he hasn't taken any of it -- >> for medicare, there's an idea. >> it's about blaming somebody. >> it still hasn't signed up. >> that's got me worried. he goes to that site to sign up, it damn well better work. somebody better be under the computer with things like this. >> he won't be doing it live and he still has his own doctor. lucky him. >>> this 11-year-old was told by government officials that she can't sel
under obama care, who knows? if you look at england -- >> who knows? >> here's something. >> it is not -- i wish it were, but it's not a single payer plan. don't say it is. it is still being run by the free market. >> what if the republicans came forward and said, i have an idea, mr. president, why don't you repeal the corporate welfare part of this bill, see what he would say about that. that's actually smart. then you put it on him to say, no, i'm not going to repair...
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under obama care, he extended the employer mandate for a year, even though the law says shall commence in each month there after through december 2013. he extended the individual mandate, stretched it out. now the small package plans, he declared the senate to not be in session, to make his recess appointments, and the constitution says that the senate shall make its own rules. that is just some of the violations we have. it is a long list from this president, an uber president with no respect or little respect for the constitution itself, sean. >> all right, so you have a president re-writing laws at a whim. and he is not using the traditional historical checks and balances and separation of powers. then he is re-writing laws and enforcing other laws. then he decides, well, i don't care if you're in session or not. congressman, what do you think? any other areas you think of? >> well, listen, the take care clause requires the president to faithfully execute all the laws. it is established principle of constitutional law, back from the days of marsbury versus madison, the days of const
under obama care, he extended the employer mandate for a year, even though the law says shall commence in each month there after through december 2013. he extended the individual mandate, stretched it out. now the small package plans, he declared the senate to not be in session, to make his recess appointments, and the constitution says that the senate shall make its own rules. that is just some of the violations we have. it is a long list from this president, an uber president with no respect...
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the obama administration is already laying the groundwork for a potential bailout. >> doug luzader live for us in washington. >> the university of notre dame and fellowship of catholic university students protesting birth control mandates under observe care. they are challenging the constitutionality under the mandate. providing birth control inder insurance company goes against religious beliefs and they filed a lawsuit in may of 2012 but was rejected as premature because the mandate hadn't taken effect at that time. >> we are learning more about the terrorist attacks about the u.s. consulate in benghazi. for the first time congress is speaking with two cia contractors about the 2012 attack. they were on the kelly files last night. when the contractors arrived the attack was still going on. they knew the ambassador was missing. which raises the question why wasn't help sent? >> what if the attack would have went on for another 24-hours? there is no accountability in the process that i have seen so far. no one knows what the president knew and when he knew it. >> he says the classified
the obama administration is already laying the groundwork for a potential bailout. >> doug luzader live for us in washington. >> the university of notre dame and fellowship of catholic university students protesting birth control mandates under observe care. they are challenging the constitutionality under the mandate. providing birth control inder insurance company goes against religious beliefs and they filed a lawsuit in may of 2012 but was rejected as premature because the...
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there was a trillion dollar stimulus under president obama. they estimated it cost $400,000 per job. it's not where i pick the winners and losers but the consumer does. the tax money goes to those who earned it. it incorporates what milton friedman said. that nobody spends anybody else's money as wisely as they spend their own. i'm going to stay john smith with ten welders, we'll give you tax money back. maybe you will hire two more. >> i have been there. there are entire neighborhoods. you can get $1 homes on ebay there. there will be some entrepreneur f the initiatives were to go into effect that would go in, take over neighborhoods, rebuild the city and businesses. last question. is part of this -- a lot of talk you might run for president. there's been talk about minority outreach. is this part of a message that the republican party needs to do it more? >> we need to care about people from every community and show up in every community. when you look at the red-blue map, there is red everywhere in the rural, small towns. fliz we need to co
there was a trillion dollar stimulus under president obama. they estimated it cost $400,000 per job. it's not where i pick the winners and losers but the consumer does. the tax money goes to those who earned it. it incorporates what milton friedman said. that nobody spends anybody else's money as wisely as they spend their own. i'm going to stay john smith with ten welders, we'll give you tax money back. maybe you will hire two more. >> i have been there. there are entire neighborhoods....
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my co-pays and deductibles triple under obama care. i'm thrilled to death, as you can tell. >> next up, we talk about this fast approaching deadline, sticker shock and the threat to millions of seniors who may also lose their doctors. get ready, folks. we're just minutes away from the first ever "the kudlow report" youth summit. for real college kids, how about that, four real college kids are going to join me live on set to talk about what they think of president obama and obama care and whether they are going to sign up or not. you don't want to miss it. free market capitalism is the best path to prosperity. i will ask these college kids. what do they think about free market capitalism? we'll be right back. >>> so this law is already making a difference for millions of young people and it's about to help millions more. about half a million people across the country already are poised to gain coverage on january 1st. some for the very first time. >> all right. welcome back to "the kudlow report." that, of course, president obama on hi
my co-pays and deductibles triple under obama care. i'm thrilled to death, as you can tell. >> next up, we talk about this fast approaching deadline, sticker shock and the threat to millions of seniors who may also lose their doctors. get ready, folks. we're just minutes away from the first ever "the kudlow report" youth summit. for real college kids, how about that, four real college kids are going to join me live on set to talk about what they think of president obama and...
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according to the commonwealth fund, states not expanding medicaid under obama care will collectively lose more than 35 billion in federal funds in 2022 alone. this report covered 20 states all with republican governors and/or state legislatures that refuse to expand medicaid under the law after the u.s. supreme court made it optional in june. joining me now is kentucky governor steve bashir. sir, we talked about this and the success your state has seen because it's being held up as the state of success. all of whom are now eligible to be covered either through medicaid expansion or your state-run health exchange. your state's success was a result of planning and testing, but i'm curious, have you heard from other governors or state officials outside of the boundaries here that look at your success and want to know how you got this right and how they can replicate that in their own states? >> i've talked to some other governors as well as our staff talking to their staffs and trying to help out in any way we can. obviously, each state is unique that's why i am will so glad that we mad
according to the commonwealth fund, states not expanding medicaid under obama care will collectively lose more than 35 billion in federal funds in 2022 alone. this report covered 20 states all with republican governors and/or state legislatures that refuse to expand medicaid under the law after the u.s. supreme court made it optional in june. joining me now is kentucky governor steve bashir. sir, we talked about this and the success your state has seen because it's being held up as the state of...
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my co-pays and deductibles triple under obama care. i'm thrilled to death, as you can tell. >> we'll have much more of what the speaker said today in our first read. >> plus, a stinging new report on the deaths of the 19 elite firefighters killed battling that massive wildfire back in june. a state agency now accused of putting the protection of property over safety. we'll have new details there. ♪ ♪ nothing says, "you're my #1 copilot," like a milk-bone biscuit. ♪ say it with milk-bone. that's it? is go out to dinner. i mean, he picks up the tab every time, which is great... he's using you. he probably has a citi thankyou card and gets 2x the points at restaurants huh the citi thankyou preferred card. now earn 2x the points on entertainment, with no annual fee. go to citi.com/thankyoucards like a squirrel stashes nuts, you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® liquid gels. nothing starts working faster than zyrtec® at relieving your allergy symptoms for 24 hours. zyrtec®. love the air. >>> road and power crews from t
my co-pays and deductibles triple under obama care. i'm thrilled to death, as you can tell. >> we'll have much more of what the speaker said today in our first read. >> plus, a stinging new report on the deaths of the 19 elite firefighters killed battling that massive wildfire back in june. a state agency now accused of putting the protection of property over safety. we'll have new details there. ♪ ♪ nothing says, "you're my #1 copilot," like a milk-bone biscuit. ♪...
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we've been talking about under the plan, president obama did say if you like your plan you can keep your plan. if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. we've been learning that is not the case for many americans out there. now the latest concern is that your prescription drugs could be taken away too. listen to this. >> there is a list of drugs that the plans cover in many cases aren't very long. if the drugs aren't covered, you're on your own. you basically have to pay for it entirely out of pocket. the money you spend on your drugs doesn't count against your out-of-pocket limits and won't count against your deductible. this could cost patients literally tens of thousands of dollars a year. >> it goes to what type of plan you get, the silver plan, platinum plan. what's the other plan? >> the bronze plan. >> you can decide how much you're going to put in. what i worry about too, if the drug makers in particular, the people that make the drugs, try to heal people with pain, whatever it may be, if you're not getting reimbursed for those drugs, people aren't getting paid for those
we've been talking about under the plan, president obama did say if you like your plan you can keep your plan. if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. we've been learning that is not the case for many americans out there. now the latest concern is that your prescription drugs could be taken away too. listen to this. >> there is a list of drugs that the plans cover in many cases aren't very long. if the drugs aren't covered, you're on your own. you basically have to pay for it...
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my copays and deductibles triple under obama -- obamacare. i'm thrilled to death. >> jay carney previously indicated the president is likely to sign up as well. >> thank you very much. ed henry at the white house. well to the fast food protest, is this really about the workers or are unrons pulling a fast one? hermon -- herman cane after this. it's donut friday at the office. and i'm low man on the totem pole. so every friday morning they send me out to get the goods. but what they don't know is that i'm using my citi thankyou card at the coffee shop, so i get 2 times the points. and those points add up fast. so, sure, make me the grunt. 'cause i'll be using those points to help me get to a beach in miami. and allllllll the big shots will be stuck here at the cube farm. the citi thankyou preferred card. now earn 2x the points on dining out and entertainment, with no annual fee.to apply, go to citi.com/thankyoucards if every u.s. home replaced one light bulb with a compact fluorescent bulb, the energy saved could light how many homes? 1 millio
my copays and deductibles triple under obama -- obamacare. i'm thrilled to death. >> jay carney previously indicated the president is likely to sign up as well. >> thank you very much. ed henry at the white house. well to the fast food protest, is this really about the workers or are unrons pulling a fast one? hermon -- herman cane after this. it's donut friday at the office. and i'm low man on the totem pole. so every friday morning they send me out to get the goods. but what they...
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obama, coupled with an underestimation of the federal reserve's will, historical buyers who are not now going to turn sellers because they know the history and fear of stock shortage among seasoned equities, could end propelling us to the next level. believe me, to these purists, the next move, it'll stink to high heaven too. can i go to gerard in south carolina? gerard? come on, this is the real usc. >> caller: hi, jim. >> how are you, gerard? >> caller: i'm well, thank you, sir. about a month ago, a caller asked about noodles, you had recommended to hold it. i have a fairly large position. i am down about 11%. friday when the market was up, the stock tumbled 6%. my question to you is this, jim. they are coming out with a new offering at a cost of $39.50. now, my cost basis is higher than that, and i was wondering going forward, generally speaking, when you see this happening within a stock that you own at the repurchase -- new offering price will be less than what your cost basis is, is that a sign to sell? >> i didn't think they should have done that deal. the stock had been down
obama, coupled with an underestimation of the federal reserve's will, historical buyers who are not now going to turn sellers because they know the history and fear of stock shortage among seasoned equities, could end propelling us to the next level. believe me, to these purists, the next move, it'll stink to high heaven too. can i go to gerard in south carolina? gerard? come on, this is the real usc. >> caller: hi, jim. >> how are you, gerard? >> caller: i'm well, thank you,...
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but the single must under covered story is this. the affordable care act will cost less than was originally projected because it appears the effect of the law on health care costs. today the president touted this development. >> health care costs are rising at the slowest rate in 50 years. so we're bending the cost of health care overall which benefits everybody. >> a round of applause. sally cone is joining me. dean, i will begin with you. we should say that the slow increase in rate and spending care, we don't know what they are fully yet. but explain to folks how big a deal this is with the cbo now downward revising it's projections out into the future. >> this is huge. we have seen the sharpest slow down in health care costs in post world war ii history. the difference between the projections in 2008 and what we think we're going to pay this year, it is $550 per person. $2200 for a family of four. is obama care responsible for all of that? no, and i don't work for the obama administration, but if it had gone the other way, imagi
but the single must under covered story is this. the affordable care act will cost less than was originally projected because it appears the effect of the law on health care costs. today the president touted this development. >> health care costs are rising at the slowest rate in 50 years. so we're bending the cost of health care overall which benefits everybody. >> a round of applause. sally cone is joining me. dean, i will begin with you. we should say that the slow increase in...
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shannon looks at what some consider a disturbing expansion of that authority under president obama. >> now, if congress refuses to act, i've said that i'll continue to do everything in my power to act without them. >> reporter: it's a pledge the president has repeatedly made and kept. from administrative directives to law enforcement officers, telling them not to arrest or deport the vast majority of those in the u.s. illegally to major rewrites of the affordable care act via speeches or the white house blog, president obama has grown increasingly willing to use the powers of the executive branch to effect major changes without ever going through congress. jonathan turley, a supporter of the president and his policies calls the trend troubling. >> the problem with what the president is doing is he's not simply posing a danger to the constitutional system, he's becoming the very danger the constitution was designed to avoid, that is the concentration of power in any single branch. >> reporter: other constitutional experts argue that president obama is carrying out his constitutional du
shannon looks at what some consider a disturbing expansion of that authority under president obama. >> now, if congress refuses to act, i've said that i'll continue to do everything in my power to act without them. >> reporter: it's a pledge the president has repeatedly made and kept. from administrative directives to law enforcement officers, telling them not to arrest or deport the vast majority of those in the u.s. illegally to major rewrites of the affordable care act via...
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. >>> mary landrieu cast the deciding vote for obama care. >> southern democrats under attack. could republicans turn the state red by picking off a few vulnerable dems?
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here she is enacting this or putting up this notion somehow there was something done under the table here. something unconstitutional and unknown before this moment. >> sure. well, i think one of the criticisms that conservatives had is the obama administration has used its executive authority to tinker with the law in where they think congress should have a say. some of this criticism reaches well beyond logic. let's go back to sarah palin. the notion death panels are in there. the first she referred to was end of life consultations. that was stripped from the legislation because of the uproar she caused. it's not in there now. but years later she's acting as if it is. so there's a bit of lunacy to these criticisms. it's not based in fact at all. that's what clouds this debate. you don't know what are pure fabrications or gripes. >> don't you think party appeal, sam, of sarah palin is she doesn't give a rat's butt what the facts are. and i think that is her wild attraction. she's almost squirrely in that way that she wants to say wild things. we'll say that's not true. she'll just c
here she is enacting this or putting up this notion somehow there was something done under the table here. something unconstitutional and unknown before this moment. >> sure. well, i think one of the criticisms that conservatives had is the obama administration has used its executive authority to tinker with the law in where they think congress should have a say. some of this criticism reaches well beyond logic. let's go back to sarah palin. the notion death panels are in there. the first...
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under president obama, four years obama's economy, he's created 1.4 million jobs. 927,000 of those jobs are part-time jobs, leaving only 456,000 jobs in four years and during that same period of time, check this out, 11 million people left the workforce, given up, guys. you do the math. if that's success, i hate to see what failure is. >> oh, yeah. >> bob snoring, stretching, burping. >> that was interesting. >> thank you, eric. >>> something happened over the weekend you might not have heard about but you can help participate for people who care about freedom. ukrainian brothers and sisters who peacefully protested in the ukraine today in kiev over the weekend because their government tried to move them away from europe and closer to a russian position. that is not what the people of ukraine want. there is a twitter hash tag, #euromaiden. i understand they're in a tough spot, they have to use diplomatic language about fostering a better environment. but if you care about freedom, you can show your support through twitter, #euromaiden. call anybody, try to help them, don't help putin. >
under president obama, four years obama's economy, he's created 1.4 million jobs. 927,000 of those jobs are part-time jobs, leaving only 456,000 jobs in four years and during that same period of time, check this out, 11 million people left the workforce, given up, guys. you do the math. if that's success, i hate to see what failure is. >> oh, yeah. >> bob snoring, stretching, burping. >> that was interesting. >> thank you, eric. >>> something happened over the...
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president obama, and these are also at the bls.gov, go right there. 75% of all the jobs president obama's created, he's created 1.5 million job, 75% of those, part time. >> you keep saying he created those jobs. i keep saying his job creation started when he issued the stimulus -- >> the obama recovery -- >> the fact is, we're -- >> they even admit that. >> from the bush administration? >> what has he been able to accomplish while he's in office? >> saved us from a depression. >> they've actually had -- the government statistic, bear that out -- >> they kept us from a depression. >> you know where the real wealth gap is, it's in d.c. that wealth gap is so large, michael moore could waddle through it. >> interesting thing the administration can take credit for the stock market but they don't want to take the blame for the income inequality he espouses. how is that, bob? >> income inequality has been growing for 20 years in this country. >> that was eric's point -- >> no, what, it's been growing for a long time. it's not any one president's fault -- the fact of the matter is, yes, it's gott
president obama, and these are also at the bls.gov, go right there. 75% of all the jobs president obama's created, he's created 1.5 million job, 75% of those, part time. >> you keep saying he created those jobs. i keep saying his job creation started when he issued the stimulus -- >> the obama recovery -- >> the fact is, we're -- >> they even admit that. >> from the bush administration? >> what has he been able to accomplish while he's in office? >>...
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i know people call this law obama care. and that's okay. because i do care. and -- i do. >> that event highlighting the crucial importance of getting young people to sign up for coverage under the affordable care act. but it is this president's earlier address that offered the clearest picture yet of the president's second-term priorities. with the health care law just one part of a vision focused on greater economic equality. and for this president, it's a political mission that's rooted in the personal. >> the combined trends of increased inequality and decreasing mobility pose a fundamental threat to the american dream, our way of life and what we stand for around the globe. so what drives me is a grand son, a son, a father, as an american, is to make sure that every striving, hard-working, optimistic kid in america has the same incredible chance that this country gave me. >> in addition to the president's policy achievements, including the affordable care act, the president offered his support for raising the federal minimum wage and said he'll outline ne
i know people call this law obama care. and that's okay. because i do care. and -- i do. >> that event highlighting the crucial importance of getting young people to sign up for coverage under the affordable care act. but it is this president's earlier address that offered the clearest picture yet of the president's second-term priorities. with the health care law just one part of a vision focused on greater economic equality. and for this president, it's a political mission that's rooted...
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>> under certain circumstances, they will. >> see, obama is trying to emulate you guys. and now it's a train wreck. so i think it's your fault. >> everybody blames canada, right? ♪ blame canada, blame canada >> in this emergency department here we have homeless people, we have bank presidents. they're side by side. >> have you heard of obama care? >> obama care? >> yeah. >> is that a violent thing? >> it sounded like a damn monster movie. >> are you satisfied with your health care here in canada? >> no. we don't enjoy waiting months for an appointment. so it's not the most effective way. >> what are you, a doctor or something? >> did you have to wait any line? >> yeah, about eight hours. >> four to six hours. >> if the canadian health care system is so good, why do 40,000 canadians go to the united states each year to get treatment? >> because they're impatient and they got money. >> you need a special appointment. specialist takes months to get. and when people are ill, they don't have money. >> i'm in the hospital. i take the things in my arms and i run. >> so you di
>> under certain circumstances, they will. >> see, obama is trying to emulate you guys. and now it's a train wreck. so i think it's your fault. >> everybody blames canada, right? ♪ blame canada, blame canada >> in this emergency department here we have homeless people, we have bank presidents. they're side by side. >> have you heard of obama care? >> obama care? >> yeah. >> is that a violent thing? >> it sounded like a damn monster movie....
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if you look at the pew poll the majority of americans under 25 want obama out of office. to me that's revealing. >> how do you respond? don't you think the president's main promises regurgitated over and over again, look at his honest and trustworthiness numbers. they are horrible. the core constituency. hispanic americans. he lost 23 points with another core constituency. a year ago it was 75%. now it's 52%. at what point do you think he lied. admit it. speak the truth. this is the truth. >> i think what we are seeing is across the board. >> why is it? the partisan politics across the board -- >> emily, did the president lie. >> approval ratings of the president, 19%. >> americans aren't going for that excuse. the president had the white house for two years and democrats controlled the congress. they should have gotten something done then. they focused on obama care. look. it's a disaster. they didn't try to go after the economy. they should have tried to fix the economy. instead they focused time on a broken program by pulling in conservative concepts into a health care
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>> eight years into obama, when will you stop blaming bush. >> the same numbers for bush and you didn't say a word. >> it wasn't the same for bush. >> 70%. >> cookies in the green room. >> i'm getting some. >> put that fist down. >> we'll pick it up another time. coming up, a wave of hate crimes put a small liberal arts college on edge. it may not be what it seems. and a woman takes a selfie in front of a would be suicide? and leave a page. like our page and leave a comment. don't forget, bill burton is coming up live on the health care law. follow me on twitter@megyn kelly. should we be tolerating sell if is in front of things like suicide attempts? >>> from the world headquarters of fox news it's "the kelly file" with megyn kelly. >> they started last fall. a growing number of hate messages at a liberal arts college. now it's taken a twist. trace? >> va sar is so concerned this fall they changed the name of the campus life response team to the bias incident response team. just like that, va sar had a rash of bias incidents. 6 in three months. someone spray painting messages like, tran
>> eight years into obama, when will you stop blaming bush. >> the same numbers for bush and you didn't say a word. >> it wasn't the same for bush. >> 70%. >> cookies in the green room. >> i'm getting some. >> put that fist down. >> we'll pick it up another time. coming up, a wave of hate crimes put a small liberal arts college on edge. it may not be what it seems. and a woman takes a selfie in front of a would be suicide? and leave a page. like...
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bush and obama and the patriot act, warrantless surveillance in the bush administration and things like that. i must say that everything we are talking about today is laughable in my opinion in the context of these problems. i am particularly struck by the overwhelming hypocrisy of the claim that the president in interpreting the law and in refusing to interpret the law in the way that would drive a stake through the law is not enforced. it's amending that he and force the law in the way that the person making the demand is not taking care and must be painfully executed. it's to the president to interpret the law within the boundaries that he has in a way that makes practical implementation of the law to fluctuate the will of the congress and the fact people that want to sabotage the wall and for if no it not to work ane no bones about it save he is not obeying this particular sentence in order to make it work. talk about hypocrisy. let me ask a question. have you made this statement i want to ask mr. lazarus the following question. the judge in the district of columbia circuit recently
bush and obama and the patriot act, warrantless surveillance in the bush administration and things like that. i must say that everything we are talking about today is laughable in my opinion in the context of these problems. i am particularly struck by the overwhelming hypocrisy of the claim that the president in interpreting the law and in refusing to interpret the law in the way that would drive a stake through the law is not enforced. it's amending that he and force the law in the way that...
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2 years of able. >> obama care doesn't cover babies? is that true or false? false. it turns out the reason this particular dad did not get coverage for his baby is he forgot to list the baby when he signed up for insurance. quoting capitol, new york, the mixup appears to be routed in the dad's application, which originally listed three of his children when he has four. when the clerical error was discovered, it was fixed, except by john boehner, who is still pedaling the story as true. i'm not sure i expect fox news to correct the story, but don't you expect the speaker of the house to? next up, true or false -- that was amazing. sorry. the desk like ate it. true or false, president obama is closing the u.s. embassy at the vatican? from the conservative washington times newspaper, obama's call to close vatican embassy is slap in the face to roman catholics. they say obama insults catholics in vatican embassy shutdown. jeb bush said hopefully it's not retribution for catholics opposing health care. they called it just the latest anti-rel
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the obama administration, and they were carried forward by brave and tenacious prosecutors who are civil servants, not political. it forow much harder is a whistleblower to win one of these cases if the government chooses that it is not to get involved? guest: it is more difficult, for sure. at the same time, the courts upheld consistently across the board that nothing is to be inferred from the united state'' decision to not intervene. in fact, we anticipate that unfortunately, because of the sequester cuts and other kinds of restrictions on government investigations, there will probably be more declamations. to the extent that you have a close working relationship with the justice department in those situations, the case is going andard by private counsel there talking to the department of justice and the agencies. you can have a very effective public-private partnership and significant recoveries, even in the hundreds of millions in dollars. host: folks on twitter want to know your website and where to go for more information on your group should guest. www.phillipsandcohen.com. i wou
the obama administration, and they were carried forward by brave and tenacious prosecutors who are civil servants, not political. it forow much harder is a whistleblower to win one of these cases if the government chooses that it is not to get involved? guest: it is more difficult, for sure. at the same time, the courts upheld consistently across the board that nothing is to be inferred from the united state'' decision to not intervene. in fact, we anticipate that unfortunately, because of the...
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job approval now 16 points under water. the latest polling average showed just 40% approval, 56% disapproval. that and the unpopularity of obama care has given republicans the edge in a generic congressional ballot. the gop is holding a three-point lead. so republicans had trailed by nearly seven points this time last month. now it's all turned around. what's their strategy going to be to maintain momentum into next year's mid-term elections and can they reach out to the blue states? i think that's the key. here now is ace political reporter and cnbc contributor robert costa. can they reach out to the blue states, bob costa? >> reporter: it's going to be difficult, larry. republicans right now are trying to to have a narrow focus on obama care, to put pressure on blue state senate democrats like mark pryor and mary landrieu. there's new sites they're coming out trying to hammer that message to independent voters in blue states. >> if they do that -- let's go into the heart of it. michigan and california and new york -- stra
job approval now 16 points under water. the latest polling average showed just 40% approval, 56% disapproval. that and the unpopularity of obama care has given republicans the edge in a generic congressional ballot. the gop is holding a three-point lead. so republicans had trailed by nearly seven points this time last month. now it's all turned around. what's their strategy going to be to maintain momentum into next year's mid-term elections and can they reach out to the blue states? i think...
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under obamacare the premium is even higher. i don't see how observe care can work. >> kathleen sebelius was in the house answering more questions about the rollout of healthcare.gov and obamacare. >> kelly wright. we will see what happens today. >> putting consumers out of subsidized insurance. a brand new report saysed the federal exchange is incorrect telling some people they are eligible for medicaid throwing them into consumer limbo. they are only able to buy them at full price now many might be left without insurance at all. you should pile an appeal of the marketplace. >> defense secretary chuck hagel meets with the prime minister to talk about the threats and ways to promote stability in neighboring afghanistan. this as hamid karzai adres with a security deal in iran. they agree to a long-term political security economic deal with the country while still resitsing a security agreement with the u.s. iranian president hassan rouhani says he opposes the president of foreign forces in afghanistan. the u.s. demanded karzai si
under obamacare the premium is even higher. i don't see how observe care can work. >> kathleen sebelius was in the house answering more questions about the rollout of healthcare.gov and obamacare. >> kelly wright. we will see what happens today. >> putting consumers out of subsidized insurance. a brand new report saysed the federal exchange is incorrect telling some people they are eligible for medicaid throwing them into consumer limbo. they are only able to buy them at full...
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under barack obama, who we all know is a big government advocate, there is an interest in keeping young people dependent on their parents and dependent on big government because the last thing they want is for young people to go in the real world and realize how much things actually cost, how many taxes they're paying and what it takes to be independent. >> what is the interest, the specific interest they have in making sure that young people don't know what it's like in the real world, that are comforted and sheltered by the government dole, by dollars, by checks, by benefits? why are they doing that? is the democratic party interested in increasing its registration? >> its registration. we all know young people typically vote for democrats until they get out in the real world and start pulling a paycheck. obamacare is a perfect example of why the land of adult children is happening. for example, you have president obama going out and saying k stay on their parents' health insurance until they're 26. last time i checked, we weren't exactly kids or children at the age of 26. many people
under barack obama, who we all know is a big government advocate, there is an interest in keeping young people dependent on their parents and dependent on big government because the last thing they want is for young people to go in the real world and realize how much things actually cost, how many taxes they're paying and what it takes to be independent. >> what is the interest, the specific interest they have in making sure that young people don't know what it's like in the real world,...
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does president obama deserve credit for improving the u.s. economy after a surprisingly strong employment report? i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> a ten-day mourning period is under way for one of the most influential leaders of our time. we're learning more about the final tributes to nelson mandela. stand by for that, and for my special conversation with the former president, bill clinton. he reveals a time when he and the south african president didn't see eye-to-eye but first, the breaking news we're following. >>> a brutal winter storm turns deadly. at least four people have been killed on icy roads in the southern u.s. we're seeing a dangerous mix of snow, sleet, freezing rain and bone-chilling cold, and it's creating hazardous conditions from texas to tennessee and beyond. now a one-two punch of weather misery is on the way, affecting both coasts from now through monday. we have team coverage beginning with our meteorologist jennifer gray at the cnn weather center. jennifer, what's going on? >> well, we are getting
does president obama deserve credit for improving the u.s. economy after a surprisingly strong employment report? i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> a ten-day mourning period is under way for one of the most influential leaders of our time. we're learning more about the final tributes to nelson mandela. stand by for that, and for my special conversation with the former president, bill clinton. he reveals a time when he and the south african president didn't...
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after a terrible first few weeks on the federal healthcare.gov website, the obama administration now says the site is working for most people most of the time, which is what they were hoping for by december 1. if the health care website is, in fact, working that much more smoothly, that should smooth the way for more people to get enrolled across the country. in the first nine weeks, in general, states running their own exchanges, kentucky included, they have done better than states that are not running their own exchanges and letting the federal government do it. but as the federal system works these kinks out, the numbers are going to keep going up. they're going to keep going up and up, even in places like mississippi, even in places like mississippi, which has done everything it can to ruin its own citizens' chances of getting health insurance, even to the point of unplugging what they had, which was working, which they designed for themselves. even in a state like mississippi, where the governor has been doing everything he can in his power to keep mississippi uninsured, even in
after a terrible first few weeks on the federal healthcare.gov website, the obama administration now says the site is working for most people most of the time, which is what they were hoping for by december 1. if the health care website is, in fact, working that much more smoothly, that should smooth the way for more people to get enrolled across the country. in the first nine weeks, in general, states running their own exchanges, kentucky included, they have done better than states that are...
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and not just where it stands on certain matters that are covered under the aca, but under obama care as a whole. take a listen. >> first of all, this isn't comprehensive because it's excluding the undocumented immigrant and it's excluding the unborn baby, so we begin to bristle at that. and secondly we said, and wait a minute, we who are pretty -- we catholics who are kind of among the pros when it comes to providing health care do it because of our religious conviction and because of the dictates of our conscience and now we're being asked to violate some of those. so that's when we began to worry and drawback and say mr. president, please, you're really kind of -- you're really kind of pushing aside some of your greatest supporters here. >> congressman, as a catholic do you agree with that? the cardinal went on to say they have been on the front end of this, i think he threw out 1919, trying to get our government to take up what it means to have health care in this country. but do you think that catholic supporters are going to hear the cardinal there and say, you know what, maybe
and not just where it stands on certain matters that are covered under the aca, but under obama care as a whole. take a listen. >> first of all, this isn't comprehensive because it's excluding the undocumented immigrant and it's excluding the unborn baby, so we begin to bristle at that. and secondly we said, and wait a minute, we who are pretty -- we catholics who are kind of among the pros when it comes to providing health care do it because of our religious conviction and because of the...